Friday, July 20, 2012

                                    Mugged on Ethics

 Here we have history being re-written by the Oligarchy which is the 3-member majority of the Town Board led by Majority leader O’Brien.  The interests of the people of East Greenbush are being sacrificed to the interests of three people who want to avoid financial disclosure and preserve the practices of nepotism and patronage.  The Town Board’s “Ethics Code” has so many “exceptions” that citizens would be better off with the 1974 Code.  It’s business and usual in East Greenbush.  Those of you old enough will be reminded of governments in Eastern Europe in the ‘50’s.  As you read the commentary below, please remember Mr. Malone’s pontification at the June Board meeting referring to the three member majority– “what we pass, passes.”  We’ve been mugged by the three driven by self-interest, relieving themselves of the “inconvenient” responsibilities they have to all the citizens of East Greenbush.



117-2012                      A Resolution Referring the Proposed Code of Ethics for the Town of East Greenbush to the Ethics Board for Review and Comment
              
Please notice that the Title makes no reference to the Code developed by the duly appointed Board of Ethics in 2010.  The Code considered is the Code from the Board (read Liccardi). 

WHEREAS, a proposed Ethics Code was brought forward for a public hearing held on June 20th 2012, and

Here again, no mention of the work done pursuant to Resolution 161-2010 dated October 13, 2010.

WHEREAS, the public hearing was held open and remains so as of this date, and

Public comment is allegedly still possible

WHEREAS, the Town Board desires receipt of comment from the Ethics Board upon the proposed Ethics Code, now

Comment on what we give you, not on the work you did.

BE IT RESOLVED, that the proposed  Code of Ethics for the Town of East Greenbush brought forward at a public hearing on June 20th 2012 is hereby referred to the Board of Ethics for review and comment, and

Read it….

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the review and comment shall be limited in scope to remain within the parameters of the proposed Code, notwithstanding any previous directive from the Town Board to the Ethics Board, and

Don’t say anything about anything that we don’t tell you that you can talk about…..  Absolutely forget about that we originally told you that you must at least include provisions related to financial disclosure.  (Talk about “double-think” and cognitive dissonance.)  Papers please….. 

Here we have the Town board stating that it will not be responsible for anything previously stated or assigned or mandated.  Wouldn’t it be ducky if any citizen could absolve him/her self of previous commitments and responsibilities with such ease to meet the personal needs present at any point in time?  Ms. Mangold need to be absolved of financial entanglements, and Malone and O’Brien don’t want to be accountable for nepotism and patronage. 

You can’t talk about those matters in anything you submit to the Town board. 

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Ethics Board review and comment shall be transmitted to the Town Board by way of a non-final inter-agency memorandum and,

What you say to us is to be said in secret so that the public will never know if you say anything which disagrees with what we sent you to “comment” on.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the public hearing shall remain open and adjourned without date.

The Town Board will decide what happens next, and it could quite possibly be a Resolution at an undetermined date which closes the public hearing and advances for passage the Board’s Code with no disclosure of anything offered by the Ethics Board. 


The foregoing Resolution was duly moved by Councilperson O’Brien and seconded by Councilperson Mangold and brought to a vote resulting as follows:
Councilperson O’Brien                       VOTED  _Yes__
Councilperson Mangold                     VOTED  _Yes__
Supervisor Langley                             VOTED  _Yes__
Councilperson Matters                       VOTED  _Yes__
Councilperson Malone                       VOTED  _Yes__


So what the Town Board three person majority wanted in the first place – a Code, rubber stamped by an obedient Ethics Board so it would look like the absence of financial disclosure, no sanctions against patronage and nepotism and business as usual in East Greenbush – could be enacted with the appearance of public vetting will actually happen.

The Ethics Board has been had, rolled, thrown under the bus, played, folded like a $2 suitcase.

Where is the consciousness of the Public Interest and Welfare on the part of both Boards? 

Everybody knew that the Board majority (oligarchy) would get what it wanted.  My question is why didn’t the Ethics Board make them publically pay for this assault on the public interest?  There were ample opportunities.  Is there some secret plan (like Nixon’s to end the Viet Nam war) that will make this colossal “cave” to the oligarchy understandable?  Yuri Andropov and Walter Ulbricht wrote that Resolution.  The people of EG are getting mugged.  Mr. Conway said at the June Ethics Board meeting that if Mr. Liccardi’s draft was adopted, it would be business as usual in EG.  He said he was going to say that at the Public Hearing.  He didn’t.  Seems to me that the people in a position to advocate in the interest of the people have caved to the oligarchy.  Really a sad day for East Greenbush.  The Machine rules once again.  “What we pass, passes.”

Right now, the Ethics Board is in no position to produce anything which will be known to the public as different from that finally promulgated by the Town Board.

This page is open to Mr. Conway, or any member of the Ethics Board to make any case they want to.

39 comments:

  1. Please correct me if I am wrong but doesn't the vote results listed above show both Langley and Matters are in agreement with the Majority? If that is correct than the Minority is following the Majority's lead and showing no dissension. I am sorry but there is a point at which stones can no longer be cast upon the Majority. When the Minority "goes along to get along" they have sold out and they are as much to blame, if not more so, for the problems continuing. Until the Minority shows dissension, the Majority cannot be held 100% responsible for the actions. At some point, excuses cannot be made for the Minority voting with the Majority on appointments and ethics resolutions.
    If I am incorrect with my understanding of the votes listed above, please explain so I will properly understand where the Minority disagreed on the ethics resolution.

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    1. Gigi....I have sent an e-mail to Mr. Langley and Mr. Matters inquiring after their rationale in voting in favor of this Resolution. I am interested particularly in the light of the fact that they advanced and supported the Ethics Board's Draft code a couple of months ago. We know the majority will vote for what it wants, but I'd be interested in what happened to the stand on principle.

      I think their e-mail addresses are on the Town website, and I'd invite you to ask the questions you have.

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    2. Dear Gigi:

      If Keith Langley voted for it, it has got to be ok. After all, he was elected and does not have to respond to any questions about anything related to the Town of East Greenbush until election day of 2015. At least that's what his "Fairly Certain" Deputy has told us.
      As for Rick Matters, I have no idea why he would silently go along with this. In the past he's usually been pretty good in explaining where he's coming from.

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  2. You should publish some form of this in the Advertiser.

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  3. The next meeting of the Board of Ethics is scheduled for this Monday, July 23 at 7 p.m. at Town Hall. These issues will be discussed and the public is welcome to attend and contribute. Your interpretation is inaccurate. The role of the Board of Ethics is merely advisory and our advice was clear and is part of the public record. It is the Town Board's prerogative to determine the ultimate content of the Code. That is a prerogative earned in fairly contested democratic elections and mandated by State law. I suspect you would rather have us argue this ad infinitum than try to get the best code we can. Will it be perfect? No. Is it in the public interest to have an updated Code of Ethics and a duly constituted functioning Board of Ethics? Without question.

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    1. Jack...the Resolution which constituted the Ethics Board and gave it a specific commission is still on the books. The Board could have stood its ground and forced the Town Board to publicly reverse its course.

      You now are required to submit "comments" in secret on a document sent to you which the public won't see. The Board has put itself in a position to promulgate whatever it wants - whether it is in the interest of all the people or not - and they can say that the final document was reviewed by the Ethics Board, implying concurrence.

      What good is an Ethics Board if the "ethical standards" you are "Ethics Boarding" reflect what we know is business as usual in East Greenbush? It is really a tragedy. If there is no speed limit there is no such thing as speeding, is there......

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  4. Permit me to be brutally honest...

    The ethics code, as it looks like it will be soon, simply stinks.

    It reflects perfectly the low standards applied to literally everything this Town Board does.

    The town attorney representing the wishes of the majority has built in so many exceptions that there are no rules, no true ethical standards - only exceptions.

    It is absolutely NOT in the best interest of the public.

    All the claims to the countrary are just political spin. This ethics code stinks and Jack, we would be, indeed, better off with the 1974 version.

    Supervisor Langley, we elected you to be different, not the same. We elected you to lead, not to follow.

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  5. Tom Grant (the elder)July 20, 2012 at 3:37 PM

    To Jack Conway:

    Hey Jack, hope all is well with you.

    I have a procedural question about language contained in the third Resolved in the Ethics Resolution relating to "non-final inter-agency memorandum."

    Am I correct in reading that this phrasing requires that any written communication between the Ethics Board and the Town Board be treated as confidential?

    Be well,

    Tom

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  6. Tom - I suspect that is the meaning of the phrase you cite. The town refused to release our original draft, calling it an inter-agency memorandum and that's likely what they will do with the next one. I don't think this means that all written communication between the two boards is confidential, only that unfinished work products (which is what a draft is, by definition)can be treated as confidential. I think Ray Mooney FOILed some memos that the Board of Ethics sent to the town attorney. I don't know if he got them but I was asked to provide official copies for that purpose. Rsy would have to weigh in on that. Starting Monday we will be discussing our new recommendations in public so if people are interested in learning what those are they should attend the meeting.

    Gadfly - The comment that we could have stood our ground and forced the town board to reverse its course is bizarre. How would that work? How could we 'force' them? Why would they reverse course? That's not fair to the members of the Board of Ethics who pushed very hard for financial disclosure. It simply isn't our call and there was no way to 'force' disclosure through. The latest resolution supercedes the original resolution; the financial disclosure requirement is off the table. You can't pick the resolutions you like and ignore the ones you don't.

    Gigi - The vote on Wednesday was not an endorsement of the public hearing draft, it was an agreement to have the Board of Ethics review it and recommend improvements. No one has signed off on anything yet, not even the majority. People are crushing the town board for producing what they consider to be a bad draft AND crushing them for taking tangible steps to try and improve it. I think it would be best to see what comes out of the Board of Ethics review before deciding how this turned out. This is still a work in progress.

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    1. Jack...We know that the Town board majority is not going to enact anything which will impair the functioning of the Machine. We know what its lifeblood is. You said publicly at the last Ethics Board meeting that the version produced by Mr. Liccardi would mean business as usual in East Greenbush. I know very well that nobody can force the majority to do anything, but you can make what it does do very public and demonstrate how against the public interest it is.

      I'd suggest Elliot Richardson's resigning and refusing Richard Nixon's order to fire Archibald Cox as a clumsy parallel.

      I agree with Ray Mooney. You're not going to get an Ethics Code in East Greenbush with this majority which in any way impairs "business as usual." They can't afford it.

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  7. Tom Grant (the elder)July 20, 2012 at 5:26 PM

    Thanks Jack:

    I'll try to get there on Monday.
    Talk to you soon and be well,

    Tom

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  8. Tom, as you have probably noticed the town attorney has been taking extraordinary steps to keep things secret.

    Everything these days is "pending litigation", "inter agency", "non final" and the like. All with the singular goal of keeping things secret.

    I received a favorable opinion from the Committee on Open Government for the original ethics code discussed between the town board and the ethics board. I think that is what Jack is referring to. But that's what it took to get the town to release that document.

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    1. Tom Grant (the elder)July 20, 2012 at 9:17 PM

      Ray:

      Thanks for the clarification.

      Be well,

      Tom

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  9. Jack, care to wager on the oitcome?

    I predict there will be NO financial disclosure.

    I predict all of Liccardi's exceptions survive.

    I predict nepotism and patronage as the foundation of the town's hiring practices will continue unabatted.

    I respect the efforts of the Ethics Board. I hope your optimism is well placed.

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  10. Jack, I am very happy to see you comment here, right, wrong or indifferent. You give us a point of reference around which to at least consider the argument in a way we may not have otherwise. Clumsy sentence, but it's Friday evening... I have not followed the Ethics travails closely, having been otherwise engaged, so it's instructive to hear another angle. Keep writing, we'll keep reading and thinking. Dwight

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  11. Don, I know this is off topic but I believe it is a small example of the really large problem of certain Town Hall folks treating our tax dollars as if they were a personal piggy bank. The "Talks" blog and the Advertiser are both featuring announcements from The "Community & Recreation Department" about the summer concerts. THESE CONCERTS ARE SPONSORED BY THE TOWN WITH TAX DOLLARS COLLECTED FROM THE RESIDENTS!!! They are Town of East Greenbush concerts. A department of the town has the assignment of taking care of the arrangements but the Town should be prominently featured in the promotional materials.
    These concerts are very nice events and the ownership belongs to the residents who are paying the tab...not the public servants they employ to arrange them.

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  12. So here we have it Boys and Girls......Right off the Talks Blog...The reason we have Nepotism is that it's been around since the '50's and everybody does it. Should be real comforting to us all. Especially Ms. O'Brien and Mr. Malone. This "mindset," and I use the terms advisedly, is the real reason we're stuck. This "mindset" permits the mugging we get on a regular basis. Makes you proud to be an American, doesn't it?

    "AnonymousJuly 22, 2012 10:09 AM

    Nepotism has been around since way before the 1950's BUT its not only in the Town of East Greenbush; its all over. Of course we want whats best for the citizens and taxpayers; but its the name of the game. If you know somebody and you've campaigned for that person and you've put your blood, sweat and tears into it, then you should get a job. Unfortunately everyone doesn't deserve that particular position because they don't have a clue - they had a totally different job in their life, but for various reasons they're fortunate enough to land a political job. So to all of you moaners and winers about patronage, its gone on since FDR and before and its going to go on a long time after we're gone."

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    1. Saying that it started whenever is just a sign of how much ignorance we are dealing with in this town.
      JUst because it was or is doesn't make it right. Just goes to show what we are up against.
      Remember someone saying they didn't care how much the taxes were raised ?. Must of been someone on Payroll.
      I can't for the life of me understand the mindset of this town. One would think they would want what was fair and just but not here. Can anyone else wrapp their mind around what is happening here. Who has the control? What we can do about it? I don't think much other then vote. That is the only thing that works.

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  13. The problem with all "its always been that way" arguments is that that way of thinking condenms us to relive the past forever. "Its always been done that way" means we can never make change and progress.

    I guess the argument would be a little more understandable if the town were successful and our financial house were in order.

    Instead we have a fiscal crisis that is being ignored by the entire Town Board but is especially acute as the majority abuses nepotism and patronage to add expense when we should be fiscally conservative.

    I close with this point...no responsible individual would ever manage their household as O'Brien, Mangold and Malone are managing our town.

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  14. Yeah - so ! That person actually makes the point - and once again you fail to reasonably see that point. Its not ALWAYS political - sometimes it is actually someone making an observation - such as you quoted above. Your narrow-minded view point is actually detrimental to your cause and its driving people AWAY from what your trying to accomplish ! You demand that the current Board not practice nepotism or patronage , yet you clearly let your people off the hook for practicing the very same thing for YEARS prior to the current Board!
    Nice try with your political rhetoric/spin.

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  15. To AnonymousJuly 23, 2012 7:50 AM:
    Why is it when someone agrees with your side or states a point in which they are defending your side your side is still a bunch of nasty bitter prunes? A few times I have stated it is NOT just the Dems that have caused the sewage problem in the Hudson and above, I have a statement listing both Matters and Langley as, as much to blame for the latest Ethics Resolution passing as the Dems. Why is it you people cannot have an agreement when one DOES ACTUALLY AGREE WITH YOU. It's very sad to be such a miserable group of blowhards to those that see your point and abhor the hypocrisy of some that believe everything is the Dems' fault. It is a bit of a turn off. Instead of spending so much of my tax dollars sitting in Town Hall trying to figure out who I am by tracing U P's, take the comments for what they are worth. It's a pure agreement with you at times. That's it. Are you all so paranoid that you have to sit all day trying to figure out who we are and then make assumptions, spew them like a baby eating carrots, and yelp like a banshee, when we actually agree with you. At some point you must understand why so many of us laugh at you, it's comedy at it's best.

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    1. I could show you some stuff to trace them if you are really interested?

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  16. Just because it has always been done doesn't make it right!!!

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  17. To Jim CozzyJuly 23, 2012 10:06 AM: Seriously? You can? I would be interested. Our tax dollars are spent searching IP's and we have a deficit, continue to increase payroll, dumping sewage in the Hudson and raise our taxes but their burning question is...who is writing on the Gadfly blog. Amazing...simply amazing.

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  18. Nepotism is the hiring of relatives. Most Fortune 500 companies have policies that prohibit the hiring of relatives.

    Why do you suppose that is?

    Patronage is the hiring of political cronies in return for their support during a political campaign. The "deal" or quid pro quo seems to be:

    "You work hard to get me elected and, once in office, I will siphon off tax payer dollars to you in the form of a job".

    Both concepts remove from the hiring process the best candidate for the job. Both hiring concepts eliminate diversity. Both hiring practices, done in the private sector, would be outragously illegal under the Equal Employment Act.

    If nepotism and patronage are such good things to do as hiring practices why is our town in the condition it is in? Why is our credit rating junk? Why did we burn through 5 Consent Decrees and increasing fines before the waste treatment issue got tackled?

    Shouldn't what you can do matter more than who you know?

    To our friends and neighbors - please note - this is about ALL forms of nepostism and patronage.

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  19. I think things got off the track on the Ethics Code front when things went "off the record." The Town board's original assignment was on the record in 2010. After much work - and a bold move in the public interest by Rick Matters - the Ethics board's work went on the record. (Remember that the Town board wanted to keep the Ethics board's product secret.)

    Since that time, just about everything has been off the record. Mr. Conway has had off the record meetings with select minorities of the Town board and Mr. Liccardi to avoid the requirements of the open meetings law. Usually the public interest is not well served in secret. What usually happens in secret is that the interests of the parties to the negotiations are the ones being bartered. Only when the public knows what is happening in those "conferences" can it be said that the public's interest is being advocated.

    So Mr. Conway, is it your opinion that the public's interest will be reflected in the final code? The Ethics Board has already said that the Code it originally produced was in the public's interest. Are you now re-defining what is in the public's interest?

    It looks like, from the last Resolution from the Town Board that the Town Board wants to keep everything off the record until they tell us what they have decided will be "ethical" in East Greenbush. What an abuse of power. People who cooperate with it are party to it.

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  20. Today's Troy Record Talespin - but is more appropriate for the Funnies section:

    http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/2012/07/23/opinion/doc500c835e0a94f568173491.txt?viewmode=fullstory

    "And, as I’ve said all along, there might be a healthy anti-Wade movement out there but just because some Democrats don’t like Wade doesn’t mean there is a viable alternative out there. The first name floated was Rick McCabe, the former East Greenbush supervisor who lost his own re-election bid in his hometown so I don’t see him as being a strong contender."


    So the Dems are thinking of trading in one ethically challenged hack for another?

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  21. Anonymous 4:08 - I am withholding judgement on the final Code of Ethics until it is passed as Local Law. Until then I intend to do everything I can to serve the public interest. I appreciate the spirit of your remarks and wish more people were paying as much attention as you have. All the best ...

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  22. Well, just came from the ethics meeting tonight. It was good, somewhere between Applebees and Jack's Oyster House. Well run, participatory, thoughtful, collegial. Everyone had done their homework and no one was made to feel left out in the audience. I hope the Town Board passes this re-submitted draft. Looking back at most of the Town's problems, a lack of ethics festers at the core. Would the current draft have fixed all the problems we've become aware of? No. Only citizen involvement will continue to make that happen. Will it ward off some problems we may never hear of? Probably, and that's a good thing, as long as the draft is not gutted by the board. Do we absolutely need financial disclosure as originally mandated? It would be nice. Essential? I think not. Conflicts of interest are essential, however, and cannot be accommodated. I can think of no board member who would publically disagree with that. Nepotism probably can't be eliminated but it can be mitigated with strong management and oversight. Patronage? It is so embedded in American political life (and probably many other countries as well) that you probably should get used to it, no matter which party is in power. Again, it can be mitigated with strong, effective leadership. Moving forward that might be our deeper concern... Dwight Jenkins

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  23. Tom Grant (the elder)July 24, 2012 at 12:04 AM

    My compliments to the Ethics Board as well.

    They have worked hard to develop a sound proposal for the Town Board's consideration. As others have stated, a strong disclosure provision would be the ideal and I would hope that a reconstituted Town Board after November 2013 would swiftly adopt it.

    In the interim, and despite the unwillingness of the current Town Board Majority to support financial disclosure, this Ethics Proposal represents a dramatic improvement over the current 1974 Ethics Code.

    As such, and with all due respect, I encourage the current Town Board, after careful deliberation, to give its approval to the soon to be resubmitted Ethics Code.

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  24. Notwithstanding Mr. Liccardi's efforts, it looks like the stuff going to the Board is not secret. OOPS. When will the Town board come to the understanding that all this monkeying around with the interests of the community at large is just not productive????

    Our town could be such a wonderful place to live without the anti-community activities of the people living off the tax levy. Maybe we're making some progress. And Dwight likes what's going on. That can't be bad.

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  25. Went to bed late, with the ripping sound of nearby lightning for a lullaby. Woke a few hours later (not enough) to the quiet dripping of rain from the gutter, and more thoughts from last night's meeting. Somewhere between lightning and dripping lay the five members of the Ethics Board, and let me hasten to add that dripping gutters, for me, are peaceful and restorative, not annoying. Lightning is exciting, and surprising, not something to fear but to enjoy. The dog and the youngster disagree, but disagreements are fine if they are handled like last night's disagreements: stake out your position, defend it, and then submit yourself to the vote of the group before moving on without malice. That's how life is: you win some, you lose some. Overall, I think the Town has won a lot with this group in place. To a person they are on record as being in favor of Financial Disclosure. What course to steer in response to the Town Board's irrational opposition to it is where we saw some disagreement, but again, it was disagreement explored from the vantage point of practicality. If the Town Board, once in favor of Disclosure and now mysteriously opposed to it, would operate in the same manner as the Ethics Board we may just see a return to civility in East Greenbush. This is not likely in the near future, because, unlike last night, where I saw no phony smiles, no B.S. arguments, and no grandstanding, the politicians of earlier in the month have their own hidden agendas full of secrecy and, undoubtedly, money- the driving force behind all attempts at secrecy, forever and for all time. Jim Brieg, Justine Spada, Esq., Joseph Slater, Esq. (a young Batman, to my eyes- Christian Bale watch out), Jack Conway and David Youmans have done yeoman's work over the last 18 months drafting a rigorous, thoughtful piece of potential local legislation. Each one was appointed by a Town Board patron. The appointees and their work should be given the greatest consideration by those Town Board patrons, and the patroons (sic) should be fully prepared to explain their changes to what this Ethics body has so diligently created. Anyone who votes against it should themselves be voted against when elections next flash like lightning in Town. You would have to be a mindless, dripping gutter (yes, there are bad dripping gutters too) to refuse what these people have crafted. Dwight Jenkins. * yes, I know- too wordy, perhaps, too preachy, too descriptive- but you're all still asleep anyway, it's not even 5:00 AM yet...

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  26. Dwight will you be my friend? You must be brilliant

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  27. As one of the few members of the public to attend the early Ethics Board meetings I have been impressed and respectful of the hard work this group has done. I have written several times to this effect and spoke in public in a similar fashion.

    Financial disclosure to be included in the ethics code was approved by the Town Board all the way back to 2010.

    It was supported by Ginny O'Brien - kudos to her and to Rick McCabe and Rick Matters who voted unamimously to include financial disclosure in the ethics code.

    The elction of Sue Mangold and Phil Malone appears to be the event that put financial disclosure off the ethics code tracks. Both new members of our Town Board have multiple conflicts of interest. Phil Malone's are mostly personal - his mother and brother are on the town payroll.

    Sue Mangold's conflicts of interest are more difficult to understand but they clearly involve her highly successful family's multiple businesses.

    But, whatever involves these two Town Board members it is quite clearly their opposition to financial disclosure that has forced Ginny O'Brien to change her position and her voting record on ethics. I wonder if that was difficult for Ms. O'Brien to do?

    The other growing unfortunate development, and it is still growing fellow tax payers, is the entire Town Board's opposition to open and transparent government. Almost everything associated with the ethics code process has been cloaked in secrecy. Seems an odd thing to do with regards to an ethics code don't you think?

    But the best I have saved for last.

    How many citizens and taxpayers are aware that the 2010 resolution that required financial disclosure in the ethics code has been repealed? I challenge anyone who was not at last night's Ethics Board meeting to research this question and discover where, when and how the Town Board and the town attorney pulled this off.

    I'll wait a few days and then provide the answer to how a resolution got appealed without actually ever repealing it. It is another one of those town secrets and apparent mysteries. Seems an unusual way to address an ethics code doesn't it?

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  28. I will be anybody's friend. I am not brilliant. Dwight

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  29. In enacting a Code of Ethics the Town Board is enacting a Local Law for the Town. That means ALL the people and it should be done in the best interests of ALL the people. It should not have "carve outs" for the particular personal interests of persons who happen to be on the Board at the time of enactment.

    But this is what is actually happening now. Ms. Mangold apparently has a problem with what she thinks the Ethics Board's draft will require of her. (I have it on good authority that she doesn't really understand what is really required, and if she did, she wouldn't have a problem.)

    It's probably different with Ms. O'Brien and Mr. Malone, because of the nepotism provisions.

    The Town Board should be enacting public policy which will protect the EG community for the years to come and make this place a better place to live. But it is doing its best to protect the temporal personal interests of those inhabiting Board positions right now. So much for statesmanship and protection of the common life of the community. (It's all about the jobs after all.)

    East Greenbush will not prosper as a community until the agenda of making the prosperity limited to only those who are in the power "in group" is over and done with, and decisions are made for the benefit of all the people. Will this happen? If it doesn't happen with this Board bunch, we should get a Board Bunch who can act for all of us, and not just for themselves.

    Town Boards over the last few years have disbursed massive amounts of taxpayer's dollars for purposes which have not been in the interests of taxpayers. It's time for taxpayers to start watching the disbursements - and the added liabilities.

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    1. I heard that there was a list floating around during the last election that the Republicans didn't get around to using which listed about 17 or 18 Hart/Mangold held businesses in East Greenbush. Probably one of the reasons for the resistance on financial disclosure. But I'd be willing to wager that the list surfaces when Sue runs for Supervisor the next time around. The big question will be whether it is released by the Republicans or by Malone as the Dems fight about who is going to be the candidate for Supervisor.

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  30. Is anyone else getting e-mails from someone by the name of Pete MS, indicating that you have a "private message," with a link to that message? If so, please preserve those e-mails, without opening them, as they appear to be malicious in nature, and then e-mail me at Dwightjen2@aol.com. I would like to be able to provide the State Police Investigator with as full a picture as possible. Thank you. Dwight Jenkins

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