This last few years
with reform efforts, Save East Greenbush and the victory of East
Greenbush First has brought back some great feelings and memories
from a long time ago. In 1958 I was a High School Junior in Patterson, California. I
attended a leadership conference with students from all over the
State at Asilomar Conference Center on the Coast. Speakers were
Andrew Cordier from the United Nation who addressed the issues of the
French Algerian conflict. (Some of that fallout might have been in Paris last week.) Martin Luther King, Jr. was there to talk
about his experience in the Montgomery Bus boycott. I ran into King
in the Recreation Hall and he asked me to shoot a game of pool. He
cleaned my clock. In five years he'd be delivering the “I have a
dream” speech, and in ten years he'd be killed by an assassin.
That brief conversation with MLK was my first real encounter with a
“mover of events.” He struck me as an ordinary guy with a vision
and a commitment to it.
Six years later, the
US Senate was debating the Civil Rights Bill which was introduced
when JFK was still alive and in a major conflict with George
Wallace. In the Spring of 1964 the debate in the Senate was long.
The religious communities in the United States joined to support the
passage of the Bill. Protestant, Catholic and Jewish theological
students from all over the United States organized an around the
clock 27/7 vigil at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington in support of
the passage of the Civil Rights Bill. I was there with 5 of my
Seminary classmates from Chicago for our “shift” from May 7 to May 9, 1964.
Don Johnson, Alden Johnson, Dave Norling, Dennis Glad, Wes Swanson and Dennis Erickson. (The Blues Brothers take Washington)
We were also
“monitored” by this member of the American Nazi Party. George
Lincoln Rockwell also paid an uncomfortable visit during our time on
duty.
The New York times
on its front page on April 29, 1964 credited the efforts of the
churches and synagogues and the united theological students as
influential in the passage of the Bill. When Lyndon Johnson signed
it, it was a time of great joy and satisfaction.
The victory of EG
1st and the efforts of all of those who made that possible
brought back some of the joyful feelings that I felt over 50 years
ago. I'm proud to have been a part of it. Ordinary people can do the right thing and be on the right side
of history.
Happy Thanksgiving Gadfly!!!! It's been an amazing eleven months since the Facilities Location Board decided on Schenectady as the site of the Capital Region casino. So many people became aware of the need for fundamental change and were willing to work hard to make it happen. Many of those people put their faith in me and I am thankful for that beyond anything I can ever put into words.
ReplyDeleteHappy Thanksgiving East Greenbush!!!!!
Rock on, Gadfly, rock on.
ReplyDeleteGadfly, what happened on 11/3 certainly was the end all and be all in EG history. What's so satisfying about it is that it's rare that justice is served up so forcefully, so fully, and so completely by the electorate. Jack, Tina and Tom didn't just take one seat or two seats but they took all three seats, which has most assuredly sent a powerful message reverberating all the way up the chain of command to the county level. The county GOP will be analyzing and, yes, worrying about what happened here in EG for decades to come. It's common knowledge that it was county personnel who brokered and spoon-fed the casino project to one over-confidant and politically inexperienced (not a good combination) Supervisor Langley. These money hungry, power brokers did not care whether or not residents wanted a big box gambling casino forced on them or even if Langley paid the ultimate price for the attempt with his job. They do, however, care and, yes, fear that a moment of retribution could well be in their future in a very short two years. It's important to remember that a top down (i.e. state, county, town) conspiracy was at hand to drop the casino on us and it wasn't just town board but zoning and planning board members, as well, who were part of the conspiracy. In other words, Gadfly, it's a very big house and if we're really going to fully and completely "clean house" for what was done to us, our work isn't done yet. We must not forget.
ReplyDelete10:47 p.m. So true. I worry that as J,T&T start to make progress over the next four years to restore the town, complacency will set in and people will go back to sleep. A functional government is like anything else, it has to be kept up and maintained. If people aren't vigilant about keeping what was won, the others will start to slowly but surely creep back in.
DeleteWhat part did the county legislators have in bringing the casino to Rens County? Didn't they mostly want it down by the river?
DeleteAnonymous 8:15 AM, What part didn't the county play?
DeleteNever forget 10:47 PM, lets hope people don't forget. Lets also remember JTT have a huge task in front of them, I have no doubt that things will change, but it is still a huge task. Lets also not forget that elections are won and lost on the local level, and this year we won one on the local level and in the future we need to move on to other levels.
Hope everyone had an enjoyable Thanksgiving!!!
Gadfly, I always had faith in you. We are on the right side of history because it was the people, not the politicians that made it so. Politicians are very naive in thinking they can govern better than those who pay their salaries. Governing should never be a blank check so to speak. There will always be those who will use it to their advantage. History is a brutal lesson in what is yet to be, if left unchecked. I'm extremely thankful to be a part of the many collective voices who said, enough! With that being said, let there be good will towards all men (women), and may you all have a wonderful Thanksgiving Day tomorrow. The same goes to the few who may be living in Kansas.
ReplyDeleteGadfly:
ReplyDeleteI'm proud to know you! Happy Thanksgiving to you and Ms. Gadfly!!
I am intensely proud to have been some small part of the reform movement in East Greenbush. We saw things that were so deeply and fundamentally wrong and we tried to make them right. We asked questions that politicians of all political persuasions despised because those questions exposed them for the frauds they all are and were.
ReplyDeleteIt took a lot of work to get people to understand what was going on around them. These same politicians are gifted liars and skilled at hiding the truth .
But, eventually, as it almost always does, the truth won out.
To all my friends and former neighbors Happy Thanksgiving and best wishes for the brightest future in the town in decades. You all deserve so much better than every prior town board in memory has given you. Please support Jack Conway and the new town board. There is a lot of work still to be done. The difference is that honesty, transparency and straight dealings will dominate that work!!!
Gadfly,
ReplyDeleteI am proud to know you and call you a friend. That is quite the history you have there. Let it a be a lesson if you believe in something enough and work on it enough it will come to pass.
Ray Mooney, you bring up a good point, about these politicians being gifted liars and hiding the truth, and this is true on just about every level of government. Which brings me to my point, Harvey Mackay had a quote in the Times Union last week, Integrity — either you have it or you don't. Doing the right thing is never the wrong thing to do. How many politicians do you think have integrity?
Jim C: the answer is zero. Absolutely zero. The "profession" appeals to professional liars.
ReplyDeleteMcCabe tried to "sell" the lie that the stipend he gave himself was for mileage and cell phone use.
Langley tried to sell the lie that the town's finances are in good shape.
There are dozens and dozens of other examples.
Hiding the truth is a lie. Failing to tell the whole truth is a lie. Lies of omission and commission are still lies.
I often joked about showing up at a town board meeting with a lamp. When asked why I would say that I was searching for an honest person. Google Greek history for the actual example.
The town, for the first time in collective memory, will be managed by non politicians. I do not believe the future could be any brighter.
Ray and Jim, I would to point out that Jack, Tina and Tom along with many other honorable individuals are politicians.
ReplyDeleteThey are about the task of creating a good government for us and it is our responsibility to support them. It is not helpful to comdemn them or every last one of their colleagues in politics as dishonorable. We must help them to heal our town and move forward.
So, to be clear: 1) If you run for office or assist a candidate running for office, you are a politician.2) politicians can be very good people and, in this case, I'm sure they will
Ray--Happy Holidays! Hope all is well and thank you for remaining interested in EG.
ReplyDeletePlease say hello to your wife.
And I am full of joy knowing I still can light the fires of the Talks bloggers.
ReplyDeleteAnn, we got involved because we were complaining about our taxes. We decided we could not complain if we did not try to do something about those taxes. That led to asking questions. The answers led to more questions.
We met wonderful people. Those people formed strong bonds as we fought for reform. Those bonds remain to this day.
Ray, the two major machines got hammered by a landslide (pardon the mixed metaphor) done by an reform effort which both considered "not a factor." They still haven't figured it out. That comes from not listening and believing their own press releases.
DeleteJust heard that Shelly Silver was convicted on all seven counts.
ReplyDeleteAnd the heart of Shelly's defense was "that's the way it has alway been done." Sound familiar?
DeleteRay and Jim. Your comments about “truth” sent me searching for the following piece I read a few months ago by Dr. Jerry Kieschnick (a retired pastor/president of the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod):
DeleteThe Truth, the Whole Truth and …
September 10, 2015 by Jerry Kieschnick
“………………. Most Americans know the words that follow the words in the title above. They are part of the oath Americans are required to make prior to taking the witness stand in a court of law. The entire oath is a question that goes something like this: “Do you solemnly swear that you will tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?”
While legally required to make this oath in court, is it not reasonable to assume that trusted leaders, both public and private, should adhere to the same standard at all times? Even when not called to testify in a court of law? Wouldn’t it be wonderful if that were really the case?
In 1998 a 49-year-old national leader denied having a certain kind of improper relations with a 22-year-old woman. That leader told the American public he was telling the truth. But he wasn’t telling the whole truth. While denying that he had had a specific kind of relationship with this woman, it later came to light that he had had other equally improper relations with her.
That man held what is considered the most powerful office in the world. A number of others are now seeking that same office. Each of them has equal responsibility to speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
Several historical figures have said: “Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely.” Abraham Lincoln said: “Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man’s character, give him power.” Jesus in the four gospels said “I tell you the truth” 80 times.
What’s the bottom line? Leaders at all times should be held to the standard of speaking the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. That standard is universally applicable to powerful leaders, both secular and sacred, in whom their constituencies place confidence and trust.”
What Dr. Kieschnick says in the last paragraph is absolutely spot on. And if that’s what we want from our town, county, state and federal governments, all of us have to constantly demand that from them, elect people who understand what this means, and demand accountability and penalties when people we elect violate that trust.
Lee Cookson
Gadfly 4:13 PM,
ReplyDeleteOn a somewhat related note. According to the NYS Board of Elections Website. The East Greenbush Republican Committee has not filed the required 27 day post election financial disclosure form with the Board of Elections. That makes SIX, yes SIX, Financial Disclosure forms the East Greenbush Republican Committee has ignored.
What say you, Republican Chairman and Deputy DPW Commissioner, Dan Fiacco?
Makes us wonder how (if?) Mr. Fiacco has been filing our Town's DPW paperwork.
That doesn't surprise anyone. When Chris DeFruscio was the GOP Chairman, he always acted as if the rules didn't apply to him. Many of us remember his behavior during the Martha Andiago incident. Sadly, he seems to have passed along this behavior to the current GOP Chairman.
DeleteThere is no excuse for not filing the reports.
NYS has always competed with Illinois for the most corrupt state in the Union.
ReplyDeleteAnd we all wondered why the OSC was so ethically bankrupt?
5:28 and 7:28:
ReplyDeleteThe points you both raise about financial disclosure are very important. Sheldon Silver finally went down as a result of the U.S. Attorney finding out why Mr. Silver failed to disclose his finances.
Dan Fiacco, as the Chair of the East Greenbush Republican Committee, has a legal and ethical obligation to disclose the finances of his East Greenbush Republican Committee. Until he does, Mr. Fiacco should not be allowed to serve the Town in any public office paid for by public tax monies. Public officers must be held to a higher standard.
Actions speak louder than words,why don't people file an official complaint instead of an official anonymous complaint?
DeleteDivision of Election Law Enforcement
40 North Pearl Street
Albany, NY 12207
518-486-7858
8:42- You are right on point. I have it on good authority that multiple complaints have already been filed. Sure wouldn't hurt anything to add to them.
ReplyDeleteI just don't understand why Mr. Fiacco wouldn't make sure his Committee has met the filing requirements. It doesn't speak well to his management ability that he won't follow the Election Law? I would imagine there are some steep penalties for not accurately filing. Just ask Shelly Silver.
ReplyDeleteUPDATE!
ReplyDeleteAccording to the latest Friends of Keith Langley Board of Elections Financial Disclosure Filing... on October 26th. The Friends of Keith Langley Re-Election Committee wrote a check for $1,000 dollars (ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS) to the East Greenbush Republican Committee. Did the EG Republican Committee Receive it? Did the EG Republican Committee Deposit it? Did the EG Republican Committee use the money for anything? Only Dan Fiacco knows, since his EG Republican Committee has refused to file the required Financial Disclosure Forms. C'mon Dan. Keith Langley was able to file his forms. Why won't you let your EG Republican Committee file its forms? This is getting to be beyond ridiculous.
Gadfly,
ReplyDeleteIt is worthwhile to note that every single East Greenbush Candidate and Committee that supported these East Greebush Candidates in the November 3, 2015 elections filed their required Financial Disclosure Reports with the New York State Board of Elections. EXECEPT FOR Danny Fiacco and his East Greenbush Republican Committee. What on earth gave Danny and his Republican Committee the impression that the Election Laws apply to everyone EXCEPT him?
I've heard that a number of complaints have been filed with the State Board Of Elections already. It's a shame Mr. Fiacco and his Town Republican "Team" need to be forced to play by the rules.
Ya think that Shelly going down and Dean potentially going down will change behavior? Maybe even locally? We've got McCabe and Murphy hanging on to thousands of dollars illegally taken, and folks on Talks saying leave them alone because they are nice people. Pension padding is not an excuse.
ReplyDeleteBuffalo chronicle is moving a story on Cuomo's potential indictment as early as Saturday.
ReplyDeleteHere's the story from Buffalo Chronicle. Things might get dicey for a number of people "at the top."
ReplyDeletehttp://buffalochronicle.com/2015/12/01/emboldened-by-silver-conviction-bharara-to-indict-cuomo-jan-2nd/
Here's a "must read" by Zepher Teachout on the legacy of Shelly Silver:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/zephyr-teachout/sheldon-silvers-legacy_b_8693306.html
The eventual cost of corruption -- as the joke tells us -- is not just that you build things you shouldn't, but you stop building things altogether. And the real cost of corruption in New York State -- and part of Shelly's legacy -- is the things we didn't do.
ReplyDeleteGadfly, can we say -- is the things we didn't do....applies to EG also?
Yup.....and Thompson Hill Road could get paved under dubious circumstances and there is still e-coli in Town Park. Can't make this stuff up. Same pattern.
ReplyDeleteGood morning Gadfly,
ReplyDeleteFYI. Still no updated Financial Disclosure Forms filed by Town of East Greenbush Republican Chair and Town of East Greenbush Deputy DPW Commissioner, Danny Fiacco regarding the receipts and expenses of monies by the EG Republican Committee. Word on the street is that the folks over at the State Board of Elections are getting pretty restive over this one. The operative word being STATE Board of Elections, located in ALBANY County. Won't be so easy for the Rensselaer County Republican Pols to bail Danny and his EG Republicans out of this mess during this Holiday Season.
It is my understanding that a unit to cover election financial matters was created in the State Attorney General's office in "exchange" for the demise of the Morland Commission which the Gov wanted to do away with. This was in the TU story about the downstate Assembly candidate who did not file disclosures and is now facing some slammer time.
DeleteHere's the link to that story which I posted a couple of weeks ago:
Deletehttp://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Ex-Assembly-candidate-charged-for-not-disclosing-6642333.php
Don't ya love it???
ReplyDeletehttp://blog.timesunion.com/capitol/archives/244017/sheldon-silver-in-line-for-estimated-90000-pension/
I'd bet that the "jobs for machine insiders agenda" has shut down the usual bile from the Talks and Matterss blogs. Hats are finally in hand boys and girls? Let's hope that DiNapoli finally gets some lead in his pencil.
ReplyDeleteHow foreign it must be for individuals to have to submit actual resumes for jobs and compete with others fair and square for appointment. Imagine having to actually be qualified to get a town job instead of just favored and connected. Many fish are now out of the usual water and they are either shrugging it off and complying with the demands of the new regime or they are swimming away. It's all utterly delicious, like a dream finally come true. Still think they're "not a factor," Keith, Chris, Dan and Eddo? Didn't think so.
ReplyDeleteIt still sends a shiver up many spines to think of what would have happened on 11/3 if not for J,T&T and the army of dedicated volunteers who helped to get them in office. Could the town have stood four more years of subpar management under subpar managers? Thankfully, we'll never know. As time goes on, it will become abundantly clear that qualified elected officials at the town AND county levels are necessary to right the ship and keep it afloat. It's not too early to start thinking about election day 2017.
ReplyDeleteYear in and year out, for the last 150 years, New York has been the most corrupt state in the United States . The Sheldon Silver case is merely the latest example.
ReplyDeleteMcCabe got away with his illegal stipends issued to himself and his daughter, in very large part, because this same corruption extends to those state agencies, like the OSC, responsible to investigate and take action.
The very people responsible to write and enforce laws are the most corrupt. The reform movement that is about to change the political landscape in East Greenbush needs to extend all the way to Albany.
January 1 and the new town board cannot happen soon enough for the good people of East Greenbush. We have been led by nasty, corrupt, self serving people for decades. On January 1 we will see that of the people, by the people and for the people really means.
Good bye Keith Langley and Phil Malone. You are failures and a part of the sad past. Hello Jack, Tina and Tom! You, and the rest of the town board are the bright, positive present and future!
At the December board meeting, some will rise to their feet and clap for Phil Malone and Keith Langley and I'm not looking forward to it. January 1st can't come soon enough, so that we can begin to put this miserable time in our town's history behind us.
ReplyDelete1:05 p.m. It's probable that Keith's very loyal friend Ed will have a speech prepared. It's also probable that Keith won't be there to hear it. One thing is for sure, as the world turns in East Greenbush, the drama will continue until 12/31. Hang in there.
ReplyDeleteDear Gadfly,
ReplyDeleteStill no Financial Disclosure filing to the State Board of Elections by the East Greenbush Republican Committee.
I have been told that at least one complaint has been filed with the unit in the AG's office charged with oversight on election financial reporting. Guess we'll see how energetic they are.
DeleteGood to know Gadfly 10:49, I'm hearing there have been at least three complaints filed directly with the Board of Elections Enforcement Unit. That's the group that worked with the AG's office to bring down the unsuccessful Brooklyn Assembly candidate you referenced in an earlier posting. I truly believe times have changed and enforcement will be swift and sure in this EG case as well.
ReplyDeletePete Stenson won't print this so I have submitted it to the Gadfly related to what Don and Suzanne supposedly owe to the town. I think it has been published on a blog before, but apparently Rick hasn't been up to his usual vigilence.
ReplyDeleteWe decline defendants' request to impose
sanctions against plaintiffs (see
22 NYCRR 130-1.1 [a]).
Peters, J.P., Rose, Lahtinen and Kavanagh, JJ., concur.
ORDERED that the order is affirmed, without costs.
The Appellate Division trumps the Supreme Court. End of story.
I too have tried posting this information on Talks throughout the year, to stop the Gilbert hating for useless matters. Readers continue to try to tear down Don and Suzanne for trying to hold our elected officials responsible for abiding by the law. They continue to state they owe money but have not once presented a fact. Yet, they think Don's crazy for wanting to recoup stipends, when in fact the OSC explicitly stated the town should "seek legal counsel to recoup stipends." Just like, in fact the Appellate Division explicitly stated no money is owed. Talks viewers, get over it!
DeleteJohn Rooney described Don and I as "political extremists" on Ed Gilbert's blog. So I wrote a reply seeking to understand what a political extremist might be. But Ed, that paragon of free speed rights, has refused to publish my letter.
DeleteBoth the Talks and Matters blogs are nothing more than avenues for pretty nasty unnamed commentary .p
Anyone able to tell me why Don and I are political extremists?
Happy Holidays to all!
An important read in today's TU.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Report-New-casinos-will-be-entering-an-6682562.php#photo-9076923
People of any measurable intelligence and taste should decide here and now to boycott the Talks and EGMatterss blogs. These blogs serve no positive purpose whatsoever but exist exclusively to spew the hatred and bile that comes from the disenfranchised politicos who now have no other way to be remotely relevant. These are the people who despise good government because there is absolutely no pay-off in it for them. They exist, now more than ever, to spread half-truths and lies designed to shake the confidence the rest of us have in the new administration. So, why give these hate-blogs an audience? Everytime we read a blog, a "hit" is registered. If they get no hits, they will likely shut down or change their formatting. As for me and my family, we won't give these blogs the satisfaction of a hit. Starting today, let's all demand far better than the zero quality posts they have to offer. We can do this, if we all resolve to do it together.
ReplyDeleteHaven't been on either one of them in months and possibly a year or two. I'm not even sure of the web address anymore.
DeleteJim C., you are better for it. I find that after reading those blogs, I feel depressed and angry. Not a good combination. Best avoided. Take care!
DeleteJust finished reading the TU article about new casinos entering an oversaturated market dated 12/7/15. I noticed the name James Featherstonhaugh surfacing again. Ol Jim continues to blah, blah, blah about "delivering revenue for education" and "maintaining workforce levels." It's all the same, old, tired rhetoric that he tried to hard sell EG except that no one, except Keith Langley and his "silent majority," was buying it. Now, Mr. Langley has no casino and no job on Jan 1 but where is ol Jim now? What happened to his promise that politicians everywhere would survive the casino craze no matter what the outcome? It's gone, just like ol Jim and the silent majority who supposedly supported Mr. Langley. Yes, Langley was indeed duped by so many levels of lobbyists but it didn't have to be that way. He could have simply listened to the people he was elected to serve (not steamroll). The casino, however, was not, in my opinion, Mr. Langley's undoing; he was his own undoing completely forgetting the ages old wisdom, "treat others as you would have them treat you." We can only hope that he learned something from it going forward. Best of luck, Mr. Supervisor, in your future endeavors.
ReplyDelete1 p.m. - maybe Mr. Feathers will use his considerable influence to get Mr. Langley, whom he stated in a newspaper article he "admires," a job at the racino in Saratoga. I read they're expanding. We'll have to stay tuned.
DeleteYes, Feathers stood out in the article. He is a true businessman, thinking more about the affects a casino would have on his precious Rasino if Capitol View was denied. Many of us who took the time time to EDUCATE ourselves about the casino industry, knew about the oversaturaltion of casinos, and their negative effects a long time ago. Totally not surprised to read what was in the article. Too bad quick money out-trumps rational thinking. I wonder if anyone from our town board took the time, to listen to the CD I gave them from Professor Goodman's speech, "THE HIDDEN COSTS OF CASINOS." I still have a few left. Maybe I'll mail Ed one from Kansas.
ReplyDeleteATTENTION: PRE-BOARD DATE CHANGED
ReplyDeletePlease be advised that the Pre-Board Meeting, scheduled for Thursday, December 10th at 4:00pm is being rescheduled to Tuesday, December 15th at 7:00PM due to illness and scheduling conflicts.
Dear Gadfly: Eddie Gilbert's blog had someone refer to you and I as political extremists. I don't know what political extremist is but to be mentioned in the same sentence with you is, indeed, an honor .
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